"I AM SPARTACUS!"

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Split Personalities/E-Mail Aliases

March 24, 2001

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@home.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:01 PM

Subject: Re: Official Position of the Democratic Party?

 

Are these the same morons who said the Dems lost because they were too liberal -- when Gore won the election?

 

Thanks for sending this. I'm a lifelong liberal Democrat, but my party needs to be Roto-Rootered, for real: turn the rascals out and replace them with leaders who care about the people.

 

BTW, I put your "Thphphphphph!" on top of the CLG Website, and the White House still hasn't autoresponded to the latest raspberry I sent them, now well over an hour ago -- something must be amiss with their servers, ya think? <g>

 

Kris Spartacus

 

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From: Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: Thphphphphphphphph!

 

Tammy,

 

Keep up the great work, I love it - fantastic website.  I have never been angrier in my life and you help save my sanity.  I can't believe this guy called you an asshole, I personally reserve that moniker for the illegitimate White House occupants.

 

And that reminds me of an anecdote from a guy pal of mine, a Vietnam Vet tough guy and a Democrat.  He told me he was ranting to his dad about the Bush regime.  His dad said, "Well, son...I figure that there are a lot of assholes in the world...and they've got to have some representation." 

 

HAHAHAHA!!

 

So, high five to you on keeping up morale!  I got a great kick out of raspberrying Resident Bush, and in return I got this lovely response (HAHAHAHA!!!!): 

 

"Thank you for emailing President Bush.  Your ideas and comments are very important to him. 

 

(bull!)

 

Unfortunately, because of the large volume of email received, the President cannot personally respond to each message.  However, the White House Staff reviews every email message and reports citizen ideas and concerns to President Bush. 

 

(that's funny, I seem to notice he's immune to public opinion or he would have done the manly thing and conceded to the rightful President Al Gore, among other things)

 

Again, thank you for your email.  Your interest in the work of President Bush and the new administration is appreciated.

 

(interest? I am fighting for my freedom and rights, thanks to the current threat from my own government, I would rather be doing a hundred other things, never had to do this when President Clinton was around)

 

Sincerely,

The White House Office of E-Correspondence

 

Please Note:

 

If the subject of your email was a request for a Presidential greeting,

please access the following link:

   

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/greeting/

 

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From: " Spartacus" spartacus@perkel.com

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:16 AM

Subject: Re: DEM PARTY OFFICIAL'S STATEMENT: DIVA IS "ASSHOLE", WEBSITE IS "MESS", THPH CAMPAIGN TO E-MAIL BUSH IS NOT COVERED BY FIRST AMENDMENT

 

Well, you're getting noticed.

 

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From: " Spartacus" spartacus@home.com

To: webmistress@gorewon2000.net

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:04 PM

 

Dear Tammy,

 

Please don't take that idiot Hauptman personally.  Imagine how awful it must be being him.  I'm sure his personal relationships are a shambles, given how quickly he was dismissive and disrespectful to you.  Clearly that is how he treats everyone; people are nothing if not consistent.

 

I love your web site.  Your creativity is an ever-flowering plant that inspires others.  Unfortunately, through the medium of  cyber-space, our usual intuitive filters are not operating, and strange characters get through (even in the guise of official positions).  It is too bad he has a significant post in the Democratic Party where he interfaces with many.  It is likely he does much damage in that regard.

 

It is your sensitivity that enables you to write the beautiful and inspired way that you do, but it does have its price.

 

Take care,

 

Nancy Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@netnitco.net

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 9:17 PM

Subject: two things

 

1. The guy who called you an asshole is jealous. You're funny; he's not.

 

You can spell; he can't. Stuff like that. Ignore it.

 

2. My daughter did a good deed. She is a high school senior, and has a government teacher who gave his students extra credit if they attended a Republican dinner, for which he bought the tickets. (Of course, he didn't offer a Democratic dinner opportunity.) The Republicans were all dressed up, and my daughter and her friends attended in their blue jeans.

 

The state senator and representative gave their little speeches, and then one of them said he was so happy that the students had joined them that evening, and that hopefully they will all vote Republican in the next election.

 

And at that, my daughter, who will be valedictorian of her class this spring, let loose with a great big "BOOOO!"

 

She got some dirty looks, but said the food was great.

 

I am so proud!

 

Nancy Spartacus

 

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Dear Nancy:

 

First off, I am bouncing back from "The Hauptman Situation" (as I now call it), and have even satirized it on my site.  It seems my serious appeals to his reason failed.

 

Where logical fails, try for belly laughs, I say!

 

Now, on to your daughter's situation:

 

THIS SOUNDS ILLEGAL TO ME!  OR AT LEAST AGAINST SCHOOL OR DISTRICT POLICY!

 

Right?  I mean, offering extra credit to students for attending a partisan political event at which they will be recruited as potential voters for a particular party?

 

By the way, I read your e-mail to my boyfriend, and he laughed out loud when I read, "BOOOO!"

 

:)

 

(PS:  I was a valedictorian, too, and if I had known then what I know now, I would have used my chance at the podium to raise a little hell. Unfortunately, I didn't know then what I know now -- I don't think any of us did...)

 

Send your daughter my love and admiration!

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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Dear Tammy,

 

Yes, it's illegal, and the teachers here do many illegal things. We know better than to raise too much of a stink  in Indiana...we are under very heavy Republican siege in rep.Steve Buyer's (next to Dan Burton's) district.

 

She has fought a few fights, including recently filing a complaint against a teacher who was gay bashing.

 

I've been asked by several people to run for school board, but these voters here, well hell Tammy, they probably ain't gonna let a girl do that!

 

I know so well what kind of world the right-wing wants to create. Here, as I've heard it described in Texas, a lot of Democrats are so conservative they seem like Republicans. I should move away, because it makes me nuts. The place is crawling with christianity. And, WE HAVE THE KLAN!

 

Thanks for the nice words about my daughter. She plans to use her podium time wisely, but has not revealed the plan.

 

I look at your site every day - thanks, it's a lifeline.

 

Nancy

 

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Dear Nancy:

 

I know what you mean about living in the political equivalent of Dante's Inferno.

 

When Chuck and I first moved to California, we lived in Irvine, in Orange County (read:  Bob Dornan Country).  I was never more unhappy in my life. It was the most racist, classist, obnoxious, pretentious, snotty, trying place I have ever lived.

 

Luckily, we have since moved to Long Beach, which is an integrated city, and even has a strong democratic base.

 

Still, there are those moments when I am still confronted with rightwing rottenness, so just remember:

 

No matter where you go, there you are...

 

(But if you DO decide to bail out of Indiana, and make a run for Southern California, COME SEE ME!)

 

:)

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:18 AM

Subject: rphauptman@aol.com

 

Hey Diva,

After sending Rick Hauptman a few e-mails, letting him know that he was the major a_ _hole; plus a few Thphphphphph! ...

 

He locked me out.... good, he he.

 

Don Spartacus

 

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Dear Don:

 

You are living proof that laughter is not only the best weapon, but a wickedly effective tool...

 

Your e-mail made me smile, BIG time (which I really needed). 

 

May I ask, was your decision to write Mr. Hauptman inspired by the BBBR site satire, the posted e-mail exchange (http://coup2k.com/hauptman.html), or did you read about the situation on one of the eGroups?

 

Whichever, I am immeasurably grateful, not only for your willingness to champion me, but for your wit, and for making me smile.

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@email.msn.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:21 AM

Subject: My Letter to RB Haupman

 

Dear Diva,

 

I was personally insulted, when I read RB Hauptman's cruel and uncalled for comments regarding you and your website. 

 

As I told Mr. Hauptman, websites like yours have offered me some degree of solace since the Coup, which is more than I can say for many of the actions of the Democratic party,  which have included abandonment and capitulation.  I have, in fact,  experienced a good deal of pain due to their appeasement of Bush and total abandonment of President Clinton.  

 

How dare Mr. Hauptman insult you in that way, when you have taken it upon yourself, unrewarded, to take some action to address the hideous situation in which we find ourselves.  I suggested that he apologize to you, and that his remarks apply more appropriately to himself.  As a centrist Democrat, I  realize that this has been a hard time for the Democratic party...so I have tried not to jump on our officials;  but for someone like Mr. Hauptman to insult people who are trying to help, is beyond the pale.  I hope his apology will be forthcoming, and that the Democratic party will wake up and smell the coffee...NOW! 

 

You are supported,

Linda Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@cs.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:17 AM

Subject: Re: The Rick Hauptman Statements

 

From what ***** wrote, and from what I've witnessed of his tactics, the guy just isn't worth it.  He's a LO-SER!  He's a Freeper in liberal's clothing. 

 

He really should be exposed for what he is.   He's a wussy.  I think it's rather funny how he let's his snide comments fly, and then blocks any response to them.  I believe I will send Mr. Hauptmann another letter from my work e-mail and let him know what an embarrassment he is.

 

Sincerely,

Mindy Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@home.com

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 7:24 AM

Subject: Re: Your wonderful letter

 

Dear Tammy,

 

There are a lot of sites out there that gather news and give opinion critical of the Criminal in Chief.  But yours is the only one that gives it such a personal touch, one so many of us identify with.  Your piece where you described how your life had virtually been on hold since the election with you in your robe on the computer with an unswept house, and friends with names such as... well, I don't remember the details, but I was crying I was laughing so hard.  I was reading about myself.  I  posted that one on my Salon thread, and everyone recognized him/herself.  We all loved it.  (Just one example.  There are many.)

 

The point here is there are millions who still feel tremendous pain over what has happened, and each day the Corporation Whore in Chief manages to rub salt in the wound.  You have a wonderful way of speaking for many of us, and at the same time making us laugh. Please know you are much appreciated by your readers.

 

Perhaps the most painful thing in the Hauptman incident is the feeling of betrayal.  The sense of community  that has grown since the coup is enormous.  It seems like an incredible betrayal when one of us turns on another.  If a wingnut had called you a nasty name, I doubt it would have been so upsetting.  (They are all jerks anyway.)  But when one of our own attacks, and all we have is each other in these sordid times, it is a total disconnect.  It rips us from the only really healing thing in all this morass:  that there are millions of us who agree and share the same pain and anger and hopes for the future.  I would think that the Hauptman incident would have challenged that sense of connectedness, even for a moment, and that is what sent you into a tailspin.

 

I don't mean to ramble here.  Mostly I want to offer you support and the hope that you can extrapolate from this event some kernel of  strength and wisdom that will ultimately invigorate you.

 

Warm wishes,

 

Nancy Spartacus

 

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Dear Nancy:

 

You don't know how much your support means to me.  Yesterday was a bad, sad, awful day.  Maybe the stress is starting to get to me, but I was actually considering deleting my site from the web, after "The Hauptman Incident" (as I now refer to it), and calling it a day as far as resisting the coup goes.

 

Then I received a call today from my almost-sister-in-law (she was worried about me), and she told me to use my humor to vent a little, so I did.

 

So, Mr. Hauptman has now been immortalized on my site forever, in the form of one of my satires.  (Not my finest hour, stooping to revenge, but it was either that, or go nuts stewing in my own juices...)

 

Just sign me,

 

-Tammy

The "Not Above Getting Down in the Gutter (Occasionally)" Diva

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@gvtc.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:42 AM

Subject: Hauptman

 

Diva-  Went to your website, and it looks great to me.  Also sent a chastisement to Mr/? Hauptman, suggesting that when he had done half so much for the cause, then he might consider looking up and he might be able to kiss your feet.  People like that 'really' piss me off.  Have a great day.

 

In Solidarity,

Victor Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@home.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:11 AM

Subject: THE DIVA JOINS ADAM CLYMER HONOR ROLL...

 

Your Rick Hauptman "Saga" was absolutely hilarious Tammy, reminiscent of my own go around with the vapid rectum in the past, when he was a member of FOB.  Your control was admirable, and your style elegant.

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@bellsouth.net

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:57 AM

Subject: about the a**hole remarks....

 

What an honor to be in the same catagory with Adam Clymer. And what a major league know nothing, no account, mindless, rat faced idiot that Hauptman is.

 

Just my humble opinion.      

 

Pat Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@optonline.net

To: "Spartacus" spartacus@twrol.com

Cc: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com; "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 10:20 AM

Subject: Re: THE DIVA JOINS ADAM CLYMER HONOR ROLL Is Declared an Ahole By Democratic Chair

 

The Diva, this Goddess, this new found friend of mine,

she is much more than just divine.

She cherishes the farthest satrapies of her Royal Land.

Her love of man can only be compared to Eve, the wife of Adam.

She gave God specific, detailed instructions for her man,

"Dear Lord, just take a rib and make him stand

and I will make him master of all my land.

Her cities sit on Golden Hills.

Her army is all real men in uniforms, not frocks and frills.

They are protected and not exposed to all those awful ills.

Her beds are soft and warm. Her soldiers meet no bloody harm,

nor shout out false alarms while she holds them in her loving arms.

 

From the Artic to the Antarctic, the joy of the Globe around its middle,

We hear both fife and fiddle.

They make their loving shout of VIVA LA DIVA.

Her fame and love of man is without a glitch.

She is a real beloved bitch,

 

Carl Spartacus

 

Just an "Old Man," so stupid that he cannot stand.

Now I dream of my Anglo/Cajun joy,

my Madam Kat, my little toy, that pretty brat.

 

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Dear Spartacus:

 

I've received all of your messages, and I appreciate them more than you know.  You have made me smile (something I consider a very good deed).  I especially liked your "Eve" poem.

 

I am bouncing back from The Hauptman Situation, as I wrote about on my site.

 

I do not consider him representative of the Democratic Party, and I hope you will not consider him representative of gay people, either.  I know many (I am an honorary gay man, a title awarded to me by the gay community in Austin, TX), and I can assure you that Mr. Hauptman is nothing like the gay people I know and love.

 

Thanks again for everything, and for caring about me enough to keep writing.

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@big-rock.org

To: RBHauptman@aol.com

Cc: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:29 PM

Subject: www.coup2k.com

 

Dear Mr. Hauptman,

 

I have a question: Did you learn your people skills from Karl Rove?

 

Tammy, the "Diva" of www.coup2k.com, has worked for hours per day since the appointment of George W. Bush on an outstanding website. Tammy has helped others like me to embrace activism as a daily way of life, not as an occasional twinge of conscience. I feel she and her website are invaluable to the Democratic fight to pick up seats in the House and Senate during 2002's elections. Do you offer anywhere near the activist opportunities that www.coup2k.com offers daily? If the Democratic outrage and anger over the botched election remains untapped and ignored, how do you think that those elections are going to go? Are you aware that George W. Bush turned down funding yesterday for election reform? In other words, we're looking at more of the same problems in a year.

 

Mr. Hauptman, did you think you were being clever by pretending to misunderstand Tammy's meaning of the latest "Bronx cheer for Bush" e-mails to whitehouse.gov, (implying instead that they were spamming e-lists,) and by calling her an "asshole"? It is difficult for me to imagine anyone thinking that style of non-communication was acceptable being in any position of leadership, let alone the leadership of my political party.

 

George W. Bush seems to believe that everyone thinks his ridiculous policies are great. Don't you think it's time to disabue that notion? What would you suggest to be more effective at getting our point across that the 100 million in this country that didn't vote Republican aren't happy? Democratic protests at Bush's events are being virtually ignored by the mainstream press.

 

You owe Tammy an apology. Publicly. Sooner than later.

 

Julie Spartacus

 

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From: RBHauptman@aol.com

To: "Spartacus" spartacus@big-rock.org

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: www.coup2k.com

 

you didn't see her obnoxious messages to me, so how dare you ask me for an apology.  she owes me one for posting a private conversation publicly.  shame on you.

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@big-rock.org

To: RBHauptman@aol.com

Cc: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 1:04 PM

Subject: Re: www.coup2k.com

 

Again, Mr. Hauptman, I want to know: What are you doing to rally the Democratic base, instead of flinging insults and feigning outrage? Do you often respond with this much firepower when told that you are, perhaps, wrong? "Shame on you?"  For God's sake.

 

When you are in a leadership position of a political party and call someone an "asshole" on an e-list, or even through private e-mail, you might want to rethink your approach.

 

Tammy attempted to work the problem out with you via e-mail. Your response to this was to block any response she might make to your e-mail. She had no other choice, in my opinion, than to answer you publicly. Frankly, I think you'd better mend fences.

 

Julie Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@optonline.net

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@respectperfection.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:57 PM

Subject: Marriage Proposal

 

My New Goddess Friend:

 

Should you here that I want to marry you, just deny it, because I won't. I'm only 76.

 

Thank you for slamming into Rick Hauptman. You are my kind of Gal.

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@planetout.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 4:18 PM

Subject: The Hauptman Situation

 

Hi Diva!

 

Thanks for not throwing in the towel. We need you. I, personally, admire and respect you more than I can explain for rising to the challenges given us at this moment in history with the grace and courage you display daily. I admire your articulate messages and your good humor, and I stand in awe of your strength.

 

If you ever wonder if what you are doing is worth it, the answer is YES. For me, at least, and for hundreds or thousands like me I'm sure, the answer is YES.

 

You stand on the front line, and I am deeply grateful, because I do not think I could do what you are doing and survive; and someone has to do it. Many of us recognize your great sacrifices. I know that I do not thank you enough.

 

But I read your page whenever I am at home, and I use the information you provide to write to my Congressmen and Congresswomen, and to keep up my spirits and my will to keep fighting.

 

You are a touchstone for courage.

 

Thank you.

 

I have written to Rick Hauptman, and am sending you a copy of that letter.

 

I have also made a couple of animated GIFs of a rotating orange ribbon. I was going to post them on my site this evening. If you would like, I would be happy to send them on to you to post for anyone who wants a graphic to use on their site.

 

 

Once again, thanks for the work you do. Don't let the idiots get you down!  There are more of us than there are of them.

 

Robin Spartacus

http://www.robinspartacus.com/

http://robinspartacus.com/Democracy.html

 

 

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Dear Mr. Hauptman,

 

I am sorely disappointed in your treatment of The Diva, who has become one of my personal heroes, as well as a hero for many others.

 

You may not wish to send a single e-mail to the White House. You may think that 48 is overkill. That is your choice. Many of us would rather fight the injustice that has been visited on us in any legal way possible; including poking fun at those  who would harm us. The message of those e-mails may have been brief, but it was emphatic, as well. The readers hired by the administration could not have missed the point.

 

I find your repeated messages to her after you had blocked her responses childish and unworthy of anyone who holds any position of authority in any party or organization.

 

No wonder the coup was successful, with people like you at the helm of the Democratic Party. No wonder it cannot pull itself together, with people like you trying to divide the workers against themselves.

 

I would hope that the opposition to the current administration was lead by dedicated adults. In this exchange, I saw one deeply dedicated adult, unpaid and often unthanked, who has worked tirelessly since the early days in November to keep thousands of us informed, keep our spirits up, and keep our hope and our activism alive.

 

You are not that adult.

 

If, by your actions, you had silenced her voice you would have done a grave injury to your party, and to the dream of regaining an America that once again shines with freedom and justice for all. An America in which every voice, and every vote, is heard and counted, and in which all people are equal. If that is what you were trying to accomplish, then I have nothing but contempt for you.

 

I would hope that my assessment of you is incorrect, and that you would prove that you are, in fact, a grown-up by apologizing publicly to the woman who is listed first on most resistance sites (including mine.) If you do issue such an apology, then I will conclude that you were having a bad day. That can happen to anyone.

 

If you do not, then I cannot help but conclude that you consider yourself  somehow superior to those of us who work in grassroots organizations. That  you have separated yourself from the people you profess to represent, and that, in fact, you speak for no one but yourself.

 

Hoping to read a resolution on the BBBR site (which I follow daily,)

 

I remain,

 

Robin Spartacus

http://www.robinspartacus.com/

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@comcastwork.net

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:16 PM

Subject: PS to my message

 

I just read the Hauptmann bit of bizarre -- and offer you my 100%.

 

You're awesome.  He's some sort of creep.

 

Hugs and assurances to you, my dear.  You're the best.

 

As a female of feeling and sensitivity, unprotected by pathological ego psychosis or rhinoceros-thick emotional hide, I know the feeling in reaction to this sort of mean attack.   So much of politics is gutter sewage -- but if you never forget who you are and what you stand for, you will transcend the swill, and ride it like a swan.  We need you Diva!  Please!

 

With admiration and support,

 

Laurie Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@cts.com

 

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:22 PM

Subject: Rick Hauptman

 

Dear Diva aka Tammy,

 

I read the email you had received from Rick Hauptman.

 

Unfortunately, even the Democratic party has its share of jerks.  He seems to be one of those hit-and-run cowardly sleazebags whose sole purpose is to sting someone (with their delusional sense of superiority) rather than have a civil dialogue in differences of opinion.

 

I have been enjoying your website.   I visit your site as well as many other great sites at least once a day (I am afraid I am getting to be a "Bash Bush Junkie").  Websites like yours have helped me to keep my sanity.  Your site has a wonderful combination of activism and humor.

 

Keep up the great work you are doing, you are helping many of us who need the resources and the encouragement you provide.

 

YOU GO GIRL

 

Linda Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 3:49 PM

Subject: Re: Democratic ideals

 

Hi Tammy,

 

I wrote a few emails back and forth with RBHauptman today.  At this point I'm not so sure that he's as interested in building a Democratic presence online as he is in his personal vendettas.

 

I tried to discuss with him how your site as well as many others would be a good tool for the democratic party to use to get its message out.  How the party would be better served by focussing the anger and outrage over the past selection into a real movement online and offline.

 

Although he carries the title of California Democratic Computer Caucus Chairman, from my discussion with him today he's much more focused on attacking you than "growing the pie higher."

 

There are too many fresh, intelligent, passionate people in the Democratic party to have to be dealing with people who are more interested in the title they got than the job they're supposed to be doing.

 

I think this man needs to seriously reconsider his part in the dem party.

 

~Margie Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To: RBHauptman@aol.com

Cc: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 9:34 AM

Subject: Democratic ideals

 

In regard to the coup2k email scuffle, I hope you were just having a bad day.

 

Being the CA Dem Computer Caucus Chairman, I wish to believe you would not denigrate a fellow Democrats' actions on behalf of our party without good reason.

 

Coup2k.com is helping to bring the passion back into the Democratic party and left of center voters.  Our party has begun to stray away from its base and towards the corporate end.  We need to remember where we came from and stay true to our party's ideals.  We need to show the voters that there is a real alternative to the Republican corporate controlled right-wing party.  That there still is a party of and for the people.  We need more passion if we are going to take back Congress in 2002.

 

Blocking discussions and personal attacks will get us nowhere.

 

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From: "Valerie Spartacus" spartacus@home.com>

To: thediva@coup2k.com>

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 5:43 PM

Subject: Who the real a**hole is

 

Maybe Mr Hauptman is the REAL A**hole and it took one to know one.

 

I meant nothing personal on your part, for I wonder what HE did about the Usurper in Thief.

 

A Canadian Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@worldnet.att.net

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 6:25 AM

Subject: Re: Dem Party Official's Statements: The Diva is an "asshole"

 

Tammy,

 

Don't pay any attention to what that creep said.  One thing I've noticed since December--when I first joined the political lists--is that just because someone is a Democrat, or seems to be on the same side politically as me, that doesn't mean they're sane or rational.  I have run into some of the nuttiest people.  I don't think they're Freepers in disguise, either.  I think they're just nutty.  It looks like you stumbled on one yesterday.  I taught Texas history to 7th graders for fourteen years--give or take a year teaching something else.  That meant I taught about 150 kids each year.  Whenever I'd have a run-in with a parent that seemed a little "off," I'd think about the law of averages.   With that many kids, assuming each has two parents, some with up to two more step-parents, I would be fairly likely to encounter at least one "troubled" person during the course of the year.  If I only encountered one then I was lucky.

 

Your site reaches so many people, being an activist you reach out and connect to thousands of people--or more.  If this was the nuttiest fruitcake you've met in awhile  just chalk it up to the fact that you're bound to encounter one like him once in awhile.

 

Please don't take his insults seriously, though.  I am being totally truthful when I tell you how much I enjoy your site.  I love your writing.  I just read your bio the other day, and I just loved it.  You are a gifted writer.  When you talked about all the events in your life which would have made you a liberal if you hadn't already been one, I could completely identify.  I also loved your exchange with Rose about being "black."  That was just hysterical.  I love your Clintoderm Patch.  Mules in horse harness.  (I was a Gone With the Wind nut as a kid.  I read the book three times in middle school.)  You take issues that are so upsetting and demoralizing, and turn them inside out, making me laugh about them. 

 

Anyway, now I'm rambling.  I'm just sorry he had any effect at all on you, but I completely understand. 

 

I live out at the 281/1604  area of San Antonio.  I've lived in Texas all my life, except for a year and a half after I met my husband and got married to him.  I met him in May'94, and I moved up there in Jan '95, so I was here part of the time you were here in San Antonio.  I truly love Texas.  I was born in East Texas in Crockett, because Lovelady, where we lived, was too small for a hospital.  I think you mentioned in your autobiography that you went to A&M.  That's not too far away from Lovelady.

 

Don't feel like you have to write me back.  Just keep up the good fight via your site whenever you feel like it again--hopefully today!!!  I vote for it everyday (that I remember to vote) on the top political sites poll. Your writing helps to cheer me up and energize me. 

 

Hopefully this makes sense, since I haven't had my second cup of coffee yet.  Take care!

 

Gina Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@cape.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 9:40 AM

Subject: I'm a Total Asshole TOO!!!!

 

Tammy,

 

Hearty congrats on your new-found status as an ASSHOLE!!!! It's great to be alive, isn't it?

 

I read your piece, and as I did, my mind harkened back to my brief but oh-so-enjoyable email exchange with Jonah Goldberg in which he allowed that I am a "total asshole". I'm so glad to be among the ranks!!!!

 

I guess we both have to earn our way to the coveted "major league" spot, but, hey, you've got to start somewhere. I'll bet there are a bunch of BBBR Fighters out there who are assholes, too, and don't even know it. Anybody who's emailed him should check back in his replies. He's probably pretty cavalier handing out such honors....there must be THOUSANDS of us!!!!!

 

FIGHT ON!!!!

 

Anne Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@messagepharm.com

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 7:00 AM

Subject: A little late, but allow me to jump on the bandwagon of support

 

Dear Tammy,

 

When I read your page a couple days ago about being called an a-hole by that f**face, I didn't realize that you would be truly hurt by the commentary of one of America's Great Anesthestized Masses.  You are indeed a good person, but you should develop thicker skin.  I, of course, support you and your fight wholeheartedly.  You are terrific and are also beloved by many, I have no doubt (and neither should you, judging by the terrific response you got).  I've said this before and I'll keep saying it:  Thanks for all your efforts in creating the BBBR site and the others you help with.  You are so damned necessary in our time of tribulation and will be instrumental in turning the country back in 2002 and 2004 (I predict that we will have to come up with tamper-proof victories, which won't be easy---after the Repugs' easy success at subverting democracy---I myself still can't believe how atrophied and worthless the Corporate Media was--Repugs will likely devise new and terrible strategies for vote theft, and we will have to win by 3-5% just to win BARELY).

 

Here's a couple of my philosophies that might help (if they don't, disregard 'em):

 

1)  Now that our society has become fundamentally insane (I don't just mean the Bush Selection, I mean that life now so closely resembles a Simpsons' episode that the earlier episodes are almost mundane, surpassed by reality long ago), it is a pleasure and an honor to be to be called "nuts", "insane" or even an "a-hole", by the denizens of such a society.

 

2)  As you so aptly put it recently, we are canaries in a coal mine.  The only difference is, when the canary squawks & chirps, the miners are forced to listen...their lives depend on it. Historically, people have been resistant to the point of murderous rage (sometimes) when forced to contemplate an unpleasant truth.  By making people confront this unpleasant truth that Democracy is wounded and disgraced, you make them mad.  It is ignorance and ego speaking.  Plus, as "canaries in a coal mine" we are unique as humans in our abilities to pierce through bullshit, and see the bigger picture.  This also scares the rest.  I always say "thank Koresh" (kudos to Bartcop) that we live today and here, because in any other place in virtually any other time in human history, people like us have been JAILED OR KILLED.  Don't kid yourself if you don't think that is right where the Bushista camp is trying to take us ultimately.

 

What I am trying to say is that in the Kingdom of the Blind/Bushista Regime, the corporately anesthetized majority who have been lulled into a fascist-approving sleep will hate and revile and ridicule the one-eyed individual.  Pay it no mind and f*** 'em. 

 

Fred Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To: "The Diva of BBBR" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:43 PM

Subject: Your postings are all great.

 

I always enjoy reading your postings.  They are always well-written and informative.  Also you are a very nice, dedicated  person and we need more individuals like you in the movement.

 

Just because Rick is in charge of a couple of computer groups, doesn't mean he represents the party.  I suspect that the national events have a lot of people on edge and off center.  He may just be in overwhelm from things unrelated to your postings.  Sometimes the volume of mail from all my groups even gets too much for me when I'm really busy. 

 

Take care and keep up the great work.

 

Ruth Spartacus

 

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Tammy,                                                      

 

What exactly did Rick Hauptman say? Have you contacted the California democratic party and filed a complaint? This is outrageous. No good democrat could possibly attack your efforts. You hang in there and keep up all of your good work!

 

I've been having trouble sending you e-mails since the switch to the server. I don't know if it's because I have webtv or what. I thought I should let you know. Also, I wasn't able to get through to the action alert "Wish Al Happy Birthday".  Can you fill me in on that too? How are you coming with your product line? By the way, what ever happened to the Gore penny? Also, the Miami Herald has finished counting all of the Florida undervotes. BDO Seidman is tabulating the statewide results as I type this e-mail. I think we're just days away from finally having our proof of victory in writing. I can't wait! I don't think we can ask our rightful President to speak out about the stolen election until we have the proof in writing. I feel like I'm walking on eggs right now. Every time I log onto the Miami Herald, I hold my breath.

 

Nancy Spartacus

 

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Subj:   Re: Rick Hauptman

Date:  03/22/2001

To:       "Spartacus" spartacus@webtv.net

 

Dear Nancy

 

WEBTV TROUBLE

 

I've noticed that all webtv people are not able to receive my ListBot messages, the occasional columns and Action Alerts that I send out.  The posts just bounce back, so ListBot has dropped all of the webtv subscibers from my list.  I don't know if there is anything I can do about that.

 

The e-mail you sent this most recent e-mail to, divatex@aol.com, is my regular e-mail, thediva@coup2k.com is my site e-mail.  I would be happy to hear from you on either one, but the site e-mail is the one I check constantly.

 

THE HAUPTMAN SITUATION

 

Regarding "The Hauptman Situation" (as I now call it -- THS for short), you can read the totality of our e-mail exchange at:  http://coup2k.com/hauptman.html

 

I should tell you that I could not respond to his last four e-mails, because he blocked my address at the same time he sent me the e-mail calling me a "total a**hole."  Basically, he wanted to be able to insult and mock me without my having an opportunity to respond or plead my case, which is exactly what he achieved.  That is why I tool the issue to my allies in eGroups and through my site.  I didn't have any other options.

 

I haven't taken any formal action.  Instead, I just "spread the word," as it were, about what happened, and I guess the chips will fall where they may.  I think this person is bad for my Party, particularly considering his position as Chair of the California Democratic Party Computer Caucus, which is supposed to encourage internet activism.

 

That is just my opinion, of course, but I have received information from others who are well acquainted with him, and they all report the same thing -- that he constantly does to others what he did to me on Tuesday.

 

I'm not sure that I, being the person he attacked, am someone the California Democratic Party is going to listen to.  I mean, I obviously now have a chip on my shoulder where Mr. Hauptman is concerned.  I don't like him -- for obvious reasons.

 

I am trying to have a sense of humor about the whole mess, and I even satirized it on my site, but to tell you the truth, it hurts like hell.  I have been trying really hard to do the right thing, and to work hard for what I believe in, so being told that I am not only ineffective, but that my website sucks, is a real blow.  Very de-motivating.

 

THE AL GORE BIRTHDAY ALERT:

 

The Al Gore Birthday Alert is at: 

http://www.geocities.com/shydemocrat/action.html

 

I checked, and it is still an active site, so if you are unable to access it, the problem may be that the security settings on your ISP or browser are so high that they are blocking all personal pages such as GeoCities and TriPod.  (If that is what is happening, make sure to access my site on its pay server, at:  http://coup2k.com)

 

Here is Al's address:

 

the Honorable Albert Gore, Jr.

Office of the Honorable Al Gore

PO Box 2346

Arlington, VA 22202

 

(I recommend addressing the card as follows:)

 

President Albert Gore, Jr.

Office of the Honorable Al Gore

PO Box 2346

Arlington, VA 22202

 

The Action Alert on this site recommends that you contribute to either:

 

the League of Women Voters

https://secure15.client-mail.com/lwvlink/forms/donate.html

 

or The Sierra Club

https://ww2.sierraclub.org/membership/donate.asp

 

in Al's name, then send him a card announcing your gift. 

(You should also CC the White House, for extra effect, I think.)

 

Also, wrote the webmasters of the site, and report your gift.  They are keeping a running tally, I believe:

shydemocrat@yahoo.com

 

THE GORE COIN

 

I never could come up with a good visual idea for the Gore Coin.  How to symbolize what he means to those of us who value democracy?  It's a tough thing to put into an image.  Outrage and anger are easier, that's for sure.

 

MY PRODUCT LINE

 

I have given up on that.  I don't have the time necessary to get off of CafePress and go my own way.  I wish I did, but my site is my priority, and it leaves no time for anything else in life.  In fact, with all the horrors coming out of the Bush administration, Congress, and the Extreme Court, I am hardly able to keep up.  It's a nightmare that never ends, you know?

 

WHO WON FLORIDA?

 

As far as the media counts go, they are important to me, but I have real trust issues after the media's handling of the coup.  Not only that, but these counts don't take into consideration (how could they?) all of the poor, black, and minority voters disenfranchized by everything from Database Technologies to disappearing voter registrations on the roles, to closed and relocated polling places.  There was just so much fraud, that I think it is obvious Gore won, media recount or not.

 

Of course, it would be wonderful to have the recount show Gore won the votes that were cast, but that doesn't address all the people who tried to vote for Gore, only to be denied their rights.

 

Anyway, there you have it.  I guess that catches us up.  I hope to hear from you again soon, and that you are able to work out your e-mail and surfing problems.  We need you glitch-free for the fight!

 

:)

 

Thanks or writing, and for being so supportive of me during this whole Hauptman mess.  It means the world to me, and I am more grateful than you know.

 

-Tammy, "The Diva" and WebMistress of BBBR and Holdings

http://www.coup2k.com THE BUSH BROTHERS BANANA REPUBLIC

 

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Subj:   Influence?  Absolutely.

Date:  03/20/2001 6:00:12 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: "Spartacus" spartacus@earthlink.net (Rose Rose)

To:       RBHauptman@aol.com

 

  I have just read your exchange with Tammy "The Diva" of the Bush Brothers Banana Republic (www.coup2k.com), and I am, frankly, appalled that someone in your position would resort to ugly language and immature insults toward someone who is not only a loyal Democrat, but who has put her heart and soul into fighting the Republican coup these past months.

 

  Shame on you.

 

  Rest assured, Mr. Hauptman, that The Diva most certainly has an influence...and I'll wager that it is a greater influence on the public than yours.  She is held in the highest esteem by those of us in the protest movement.  Like many of us, Tammy puts in long hours for absolutely no compensation whatsoever.  She is a true patriot, a brilliant satirist and a tireless advocate of the truth.  I have met her, and can state unequivocally that she is one of the finest people I know.

 

  I believe you owe her an apology.

 

 

Rose Spartacus

spartacusfolk.com founder/webmistress

 

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Subj:   Your Letter to Rick Hauptman

Date:  03/20/2001

To:       "Spartacus" spartacus@earthlink.net

 

Dear Rose:

 

Your letter made me cry.

 

I have been sitting here (pretty much all day -- his e-mails began early in the day, after I posted the "Thphphphph!" alert to the YahooGroups I subscribe to), completely depressed and feeling very alone and small.

 

Your letter makes me feel so loved and appreciated!  So proud to be a fringefolk, and someone in your life -- even if through a computer screen, mostly.

 

I just hope I have always made it clear on my site that the Action Alerts I post are many and varied, and people should pick and choose the ones that speak to their issues and personalities.  I never meant to be imperious or bossy, or insensitive to the differing approaches taken by activists.

 

And I never entertained the thought that my personal activism or my website would be seen as a negative in the liberal community.  That is the hardest thing to even consider, because I believe so strongly in what I am doing.

 

Thanks for letting me open my heart to you, and for being so supportive of me.

 

-Tammy, "The Diva" and WebMistress of BBBR and Holdings

http://www.coup2k.com THE BUSH BROTHERS BANANA REPUBLIC

 

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Subj:   Re: Your Letter to Rick Hauptman

Date:  03/20/2001 8:42:29 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: "Spartacus" spartacus@earthlink.net (Rose Rose)

To:       DivaTex@aol.com

 

Hi, sweetie.  I was so mad over that ASSHOLE'S comments that it took me a good fifteen minutes to write the email, because I kept wanting to let off a string of obscenities, and of course that would have been counter-productive.

 

I heard back from the creep; here's what he wrote:

 

"she sent me 3 obnoxious messages.  she's famous, she has you, so why do you need me.  You folks have too much time on your hands.  infantile, puerile, absolutely needy for attention.  sad."

 

I am going to call the CA Democratic Party tomorrow and issue a complaint.  This guy STARTED the conflict, and then insulted you, and when I wrote him a serious letter of complaint, he responded with insults.  What a worm.  The party needs to know that he's doing crap like this.

 

You are NOT imperious or bossy or anything negative...you are working your butt off to fight the coup and you ask nothing in  return, and it makes me sick that a so-called Democrat would be so insulting about your efforts. You are EXTREMELY appreciated (in fact, I've been meaning to tell you that one of the fringers wrote to me recently and suggested that you and I write a book, because we're his favorite writers)...I can't begin to imagine how you find the energy to do all that you do.  So, don't let one obnoxious, small-minded person bring you down.  The only people who would view what you're doing in a negative light are cowardly little centrist slimeballs who are afraid to say Boo to anyone.

 

You're not alone...none of us are.  The silver lining for me in the whole coup situation is that it has restored my faith in humanity, because I've met so many wonderful and caring people.

 

Keep fighting,

 

Rose Spartacus

 

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Subj:   (no subject)

Date:  03/22/2001 4:37:41 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: "Spartacus" spartacus@aol.com

To:       DivaTex

 

Dear Tammy,

 

Today, I have been catching up with your site.  I have been out of circulation ... in the dumps ... in despair ... blue ... tired ... pissed... indignant... coming back from the edge.  The Grand Resident One's presence in the White House has caused serious harm to my sense of reality.  I avoided political news for a bit and tried to readjust.  Now, I am working on the actions that I need to take.

 

I am confused.  I could not figure out why anyone would attack you for any of the action alerts posted on your web site.  I read the email posts with Rick Hauptman.  I still don't understand it.

 

I checked out the Democratic Computer Caucus site to look over R Hauptman's work and group affiliation. 

 

First of all, I was not impressed with their website.  Second of all, it reeks of a group whose organizing members' purpose is to be employed first and political action second.  Third of all, there were no bylaws posted when I checked.

 

I am self-employed and struggle as anyone who works in the area of community development or with non-profit group organization.  I work primarily with Tribal groups and consistently run into the groups which are organized more with a purposed of self-employment than mission of the stated cause.

 

I do not begrudge anyone who is working as a consultant being paid a decent wage but I expect honesty in reference that consultant's role in a non-profit group.  I question anyone who starts a cause oriented group who expects to be paid or whose goal is to be salaried by the group.  The sad thing is that these types of groups suck off resources better spent on active, healthy organizations which address issues.

 

I have come to believe that political consultants are about a dime a dozen while the good ones are worth their weight in gold.  I would bet that Rick Hauptman is one of the dime a dozen variety.  I would also bet that this Democratic Computer Caucus is an attempt to become something akin to Democrats.com and is not a part of the California Democratic party. 

 

On a more up note .... I called my son and his mate last week and asked if they would be interested in attending the Voters March in DC on May 19.  I explained that I hope to have a contract in place which will provide a little traveling money by then.  They were quite excited.  So, this will be my Mother's Day gift to myself .... a trip and a protest.  I am excited.  I need to be excited about something.

 

I hope you are taking care of yourself, indulging yourself when you can.  I know how I feel and I am more insulated that you are.  I feel for you. 

 

You do great work.  You connect the dots in ways that are beautifully simple.  I have worked in politics and community organization/development for years and I have a command of the issues.  You have the kind of talent and insight that I wished I had.  I know you are going to irritate the little minds who recognize talent but are too small to appreciate it.  I hope the Rick Hauptmans of the world do not enjoy any degree of your energy as that is all they are .......... energy suckers (another name I came across recently was "aura eaters", I like that name). 

 

While I don't claim the degree of talent you possess, I can be a part of welcoming you to the Asshole League.  So welcome dear sister, your Fellowship of Assholes salute your membership.

 

In the meantime, do take care.

 

Pat Spartacus

Rapid City, SD

 

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Subj:   Keeping the faith (non-denominational)

Date:  03/21/2001 6:14:19 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: "Spartacus" spartacus@Home.com

To:       Divatex@aol.com (Tammy Talpas)

 

Tammy -

 

I think that by now you know how I feel about you and what you have done in creating the BBBR.

 

You are an American hero during a time when the only other heroes are on lunch menus in school cafeterias.

 

You CANNOT let someone with an ax the size of Mr. Hauptman's affect you in so deep a way. His points are neither trenchant nor significant enough to cause you to doubt yourself and your work for one nanosecond.

 

You have created a vibrant political forum out of dust, air and despair and given political refuge to a few hundred weary, angry souls. You, we need; Hauptman can go commit an act a self pollution.

 

Love, as ever,

 

your sister,

Lynne Spartacus

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@voicenet.com

To: thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Friday, March 23, 2001 10:22 AM

Subject: We are the champions

 

Nobody picks on my diva and gets away with it. Who is this California State Democratic Party Caucus Chair? I found the Party web site list most all, but not the specific title Democratic Party Caucus Chair. I would just like to drop him or her a friendly note in support of you and your web site. ie "it's my sanity at risk here and if not for you and Rose, I'd lose it all together".

 

I'd like to ask Barbara Boxer for her opinion and the Black Caucus for that matter.

 

Don't let it get you down,

 

Peter Spartacus (Democratic Executive Board Bucks County Pa.)

 

P.S. Know how you feel with Aerosmith, I just got two front tickets to see Michael Flatley "feet of flames" at the Core States Center here in Philly. Wow, expensive! but I can't wait.

 

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Dear Peter:

 

Congratulations on scoring the Flatley tickets!  I am a huge fan of dance myself, but I rarely attend live performances because of the cost.  Still Flatley is worth ponying up the big bucks, I've been told.

 

Rick Hauptman, the man with whom I had that e-mail exchange "heard 'round the BBBR" (http://coup2k.com/hauptman.html), is the Chair of the California Democratic Party Computer Caucus.  I've been told he is quite important, and that my best option would be to apologize to him, take responsibility for my "bad attitude" and "inappropriate" behavior, and mend fences.

 

I can't do that.  I won't do that.

 

I always apologize when I screw the pooch, but this is one puppy I've never gone anywhere near, and I am not going to pretend that I did.

 

I'd rather be persona non grata, than a liar, which is exactly what I'd be if I apologized for something for which I am not sorry.

 

(There, I vented a little... I guess I'm not as "over" this whole thing as I thought I was...)

 

You needn't write Mr. Hauptman or anyone else.  I appreciate the offer, but there is no reason for you to alienate people, too.  I seem to have done enough of that for all of us...

 

Bummer.

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@voicenet.com

To: RBHauptman@aol.com; "The Diva (Tammy)" thediva@coup2k.com

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:17 AM

Subject: In support of "the diva"

 

Dear Sir,

 

I have read the tet a tet between the two of you and  feel that I must respond in my limited way.  In short, I would rather read one paragraph from her heart than a page from your mind.

 

I get the impression that you are of the "get over it, lets move on, what's next" mind set; welcome to the wonderful world of complacency. Well, I and thousands of Americans have not gotten over it. There is anger and pain. Good people like "the diva" and Ann Rose Thomas (majority fringe) with their wit and humor help save our sanity. They write the words that we wish we could say, the words we feel, in plain English, and I for one love them for it. If you doubt her sincerity, I would ask you to read her reply to Helen, then ask yourself how would I have responded or would I have responded to cry for help.

 

So, my fellow Democrat please come down from your ivory tower of politically correct platforms and listen to everyday people. It's nice to encourage people to share information, now would you please include their feelings and their right to express those feelings whether you like them or not. I believe it's the "Democratic" way.

 

Sincerely in Democratic fellow-ship,

Peter Spartacus (Democratic executive board Bucks County Pennsylvania, 25 years)

Union Carpenter retired

 

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From: "Spartacus" spartacus@ix.netcom.com>

To: thediva@coup2k.com>

Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 10:12 PM

Subject: Your response to Hauptman

 

Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Isn't there some old Chinese proverb warning about checking out the strength and knowledge of the person you attack first? Maybe he doesn't speak Chinese.

 

Great response, the movement doesn't need his type of mentality. He is probably a mole anyway.

 

Are you interested in working with us (VoterMarchSF) in getting the May 19 West Coast march as big as possible?

 

Jody Spartacus

Modesto, CA

 

PS: Great website!

 

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Dear Jody:

 

Thanks for your wonderful support during my time of troubles...  Not a fun day, as you can imagine.

 

I am heavily promoting the VoterMarch through my eGroup, as well as on my site, and was just waiting for the finalizing of the West Coast plans.  I am going to be going to DC, but I know most of the California activists will most likely attend the March here on the Coast.

 

Are ya'll any closer to nailing down all the logistics?  I have been posting the VoterMarch local contact info to my eGroup, and getting people to begin looking into transportation and lodgings.  We are down to the stretch now, and folks are beginning to book their trips.

 

Anyway, let me know if there is anything else I can do.  I have posted the VM banner on my site, and the link is also in my TOC on all 300 or so pages, under Protests & Demonstrations.

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

A PERSONALITY IS A TERRIBLE THING TO SPLIT...

OR IS IT?

J

MORE SPARTACI

 

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From:  "Spartacus" spartacus@netzero.net

Date:  Sat Mar 24, 2001 12:03pm

Subject:  Re: [BBBR] T.H.S. Update: Conspiracy Theory Raised by Hauptman

 

oh baby, i have to say that originally i was going to hold my tongue re: mr. hauptman, but now i have to send him an email...

 

btw, tammy, one of your email aliases is now spartacus@netzero.net

 

BUT DONT TELL ANYONE!

 

peace and solidarity,

carah spartacus

 

--

We are all in the gutter, but some

of us are looking at the stars.

~Oscar Wilde~

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previously unknown clinton scandals UNEARTHED!

http://spartacus.tripod.com/

 

 

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Dear Carah:

 

I slept for a couple of hours this morning, and guess who I dreamt about? 

 

NOPE.

 

Not Bush -- Hauptman. 

 

He's becoming the bogeyman. How frickin' weird is that?

 

AND HE'S A DAMN DEMOCRAT!

 

Sheesh!

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: <spartacus@cornell.edu>

To: "The Diva of BBBR" <thediva@coup2k.com>

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 12:30 PM

Subject: Beth wakes up to the crisis

 

Dear Tammy:

 

As previously noted, I'm a little slow this week.  So it took me a couple days to process your commentary on Hauptman.  Slowly it sunk in, and today I went, "Wait.  She was considering quitting?  Because of what that twit said?"

 

Flat out: he's wrong.  Your site is good, your work is important, and you are an asshole only in the revered Adam Clymer sense of the term. 

 

I really like the design of your site.  One of my brothers found it a little overwhelming to look at.  But you know what?  That's completely a matter of opinion.  I've been to professionally designed sites that use huge amounts of memory for no discernable reason, (like the American Airlines one does/did).  I've been to professionally designed sites where the buttons at the top go outside the margins of my browser, but don't allow me to scroll right to see them; they'd assumed a larger monitor than my old one.  I've been to one person's site where the gray wallpaper in the background makes loading slow even with an ethernet connection.  You've made none of those glaring errors, and you've made the site yourself, format and content.  Right from the beginning of surfing your site, before I knew you or joined BBBR, I remember being amazed that you were one person doing all of it, so well.

 

Your detractor also seems to be of the misconception that if you can't do everything, you shouldn't bother doing anything.  I'm not willing to guess what the "big picture" impact of your site has been, because I don't know what the traffic is, or how many people follow your alerts.  But I *do* know, because it is mentioned all the time, that you have helped many individuals feel connected and supported, as well as get in touch with their inner activist.  A "real" movement, online and offline, he wanted?  What does he call attending protests around the nation, writing letters, reading news, informing friends, going to Washington?

 

If this isn't real, what is?  Is it only real if it has centralized funding to pay for positions like his?  Besides, even your stalker said you were "famous."  Why is that?  Is it because you started out as a media personality, or because you're rich?  Nope.  You've built your following on hard work and merit and insight, and even he acknowledges that.  I bet it drives him crazy.

 

In watching that Women's Rights program, I remember being so impressed with Susan B. Anthony, who was torn apart in editorials and pelted with food when she spoke.  I didn't think I could have done it.  I, too, am very sensitive to insults, even with people I don't respect.  It may be a result of our lovely school experiences, who knows.  I wish I had a thicker skin, because I feel like I need it to do what I know to be right.  You may feel thin-skinned, but you're out there, and you're doing your thing -- you've told us your name and your story, opened yourself up personally.  It's part of what makes your site compelling, and it's a sign of courage.  In martial arts, we learn that closing in, hunching over and keeping your arms close may feel safer, but your energy shield collapses... you learn to shield yourself while remaining open, so you can take in information and use your spirit.  My sensei has a movement poem called "Full Open," about learning to be vulnerable as an expression of strength.  I think you've already learned that lesson.

 

As for the thph... maybe it was a little juvenile.  So?  We're being "governed" by a third-grader.  Sometimes we need to protest in silly ways, too.  (Like the Bush Wipe toilet paper at whatpresident.com, or sending dog doo anonymously via the internet.) If he didn't want to do it, he didn't have to.  I remember this forward I've gotten a couple times, about lessons learned in life.  And one of my favorites is, "I've learned to say 'F*** 'em if they can't take a joke' in five languages."  Well, I haven't, and I'm not very good at doing it even in English.  Maybe we both need to learn. 

 

:)

 

I know I'm rambling, but... I just wanted to say, we do need you.  But if you needed to, I would accept it if you pulled back, or took a break.  I would be sad, but I also realize how much you've given, so it isn't fair for any of us to guilt you into staying to open your veins more, just because you've done so already.  You are important to us as the Diva, but you also deserve to take care of yourself as Tammy.  So, if you need to leave for your own health, it's okay.  But if you're thinking of doing it because you believe what Hauptman said -- don't believe him for a minute.

 

hugs,

Beth Spartacus

 

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THE DIVA, HEART BURSTING, {{{HUGGING BETH}}} 

 

(I mean, hugging herself?)

 

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Subj:   You're Fired.

Date:  03/24/2001 1:43:57 PM Pacific Standard Time

From: spartacusgal@yahoo.com (Tally Spartacus)

To:       RBHauptman@aol.com

CC:      divatex@aol.com

 

 

Mr. R.B. Hauptman:

 

You have one week to PUBLICLY apologize to The Diva and the rest of the sane members of the Democratic Party who either have not been sucked over to The Dark Side, or become just plain lazy.

 

You do hold "Public Office," do you not? 

 

Lose sight that 'We The People' are your collective boss, at your own peril.  If you are not directly elected to your office, and cannot be voted out, we can fire your boss.

 

You really need to wake up to what is happening, and stop listening to the Great Propaganda Machine of the Corporate Media.

 

Sincerely,

 

Tally Spartacus

 

aka - The SpartacusGal and Registered Democrat

 

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Dear SpartacusGal:

 

Man, oh, Man!  You (I mean, me?) can be very forceful when you are outraged.  I guess that's why your rants kick a**!

 

(And I should know, considering what an a**hole I am!)

 

;)

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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From: "Spartacus" <spartacus@voicenet.com>

To: "The Diva (Tammy)" <thediva@coup2k.com>

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 9:49 AM

Subject: In support of

 

Dear Tammy,

 

This guy RBHauptman@aol.com is a waste of time, and if not for you, I wouldn't use my best construction vocabulary on him. For the position he holds and the education he has, you would think that he would not have to resort to petty name-calling. Have you kept track of the numbers?

 

If this occurred in my State I would send all this to the State Committee and ask the Chair for a policy ruling. "file a grievance", or have a third party do it for you. As important as he is, he has to answer to someone. I personally think the guys a member of the wrong party or at least not the one I know.

 

Keep the faith,

Peter Spartacus

 

"Peter Spartacus" wrote:

 

http://coup2k.com/hauptman.html

 

Is there anything that's missing? Are you sure you're a democrat? Are you what we use't to call "a Ray-gun democrat"?  Are you old enough to remember J.F.K.?  By the way, I am really impressed with all your titles. I'm more of a grass-roots sort of a guy, and maybe that's the difference between us.

 

Peter Spartacus

(past Vice-chair, 31st  A.D:)

 

RBHauptman@aol.com wrote:

 

you never saw the obnoxious email messages she sent me.  please go away.  And stop feeding that moron's ego. "THPHPHPHPHPHPHPHPHPH!!!!"

 

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Dear Peter (a.k.a. "The Diva"):

 

I got another attack e-mail from Hauptman last night, this time implying that all the mail he is receiving on my behalf is coming, in fact, from me. I responded, and the mail came back, so I posted my response on my site (again).  I am still blocked, so this is the only way to defend myself.

 

Check it out.  I kid you not:

http://coup2k.com/

 

And don't miss "I AM SPARTACUS!":

http://coup2k.com/iamspartacusemails.html

 

You are after all, ME, and Spartacus, too!

 

:)

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

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Dear Tammy:

 

I am flattered that he believes that I am you, and flattered again by his now blocking of me. This is a first for me and is a bit like having your name written on the out-house wall. Out of curiosity, have you received any mail in support of him? In a war of words, my money is on you.  Have Rose take a shot at him, she could put him right up there with that  Southern Baptist site of Liberal haters.

 

Does this mean I get a "I'm the Diva!  No, I'm the Diva!" button? 

 

Ah, is that the "I am Spartacus" page? I bet it is. I'll send this and then read the page.

 

Pete Spartacus

 

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Dear Pete:

 

Yours (I mean, mine?) may just be the most telling exchange with Mr. Hauptman so far...

 

Allow me to elaborate:

 

1. Every e-mail communication Mr. Hauptman received from me has been posted on this site, at http://coup2k.com/hauptman.html.  (Not counting, of course, all of the e-mails on this page; which, in my fragile mental state brought on by Post-Coup Stress Disorder, I apparently sent to myself, but am unaware of...)  I leave it to the BBBR Resistance fighters to judge the level of my obnoxiousness.  THEIR judgment I trust.  HIS, I don't.

 

2. Every e-mail communication I sent to Mr. Hauptman which came bouncing back, due to his blocking me, has also been posted.

 

3. Mr. Hauptman is very intuitive to have ascertained, through the very brief e-mails I sent him, and which he actually permitted himself to receive, that I am a 'moron'.  (A Moron has an IQ between 51 and 70.)  Generally, most diagnoses leading to that label come AFTER an IQ test.  However, in the interest of Party unity, I will accept the label of 'moron', sans Revised Stanford-Binet Intelligence Tests.

 

I am a loyal liberal Democrat, after all.

 

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From: <spartacus@it-publications.com>

To: <thediva@coup2k.com>

Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2001 11:53 AM

Subject: Hauptman is an alias for GW

 

Hi Diva,

 

I read most of the Hauptman stuff on your site (the things I miss by skipping just one day!) and it is clear to me that Hauptman is an alias for the Dumb one himself.

 

The incorrect spelling and grammar, rudeness and the inane comments (Happy Pasover, misspelled and 2 weeks before the correct time - what is that supposed to mean? - I don't even want to think about that one) can only point to one person - that's right - His Dumbness - the HIGHest Dumb One - DumOne - the one whose name I will not speak nor write.

 

Peace and Resistance,

Spartacus in Connecticut

 

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Dear Nita (a.k.a. "The Diva"):

 

I have never been one to go in much for the cloak-and-dagger stuff, but I think your theory has merit.

 

I, too, have noticed the spelling and vocabulary issues.

 

As an honorary Jew (I was gifted with my first English-to-Yiddish/Yiddish-to-English Dictionary a couple of years back a very great friend -- the law student I've mentioned before, that escorted me to the Bush v. Gore conference at USC Law School), I, too, noticed that his holiday wishes were quite premature.

 

There is of course the Baker element ("F*** the Jews, they didn't vote for us anyway!") to keep in mind when it comes to the Thief-in-Chief-That-Dare-Not-Show-His-Ugly-Mug-Around-The-BBBR-Bunker.

 

And there is also the obvious desire of the Unspeakable One working to fracture the liberal coalition whose votes so outnumbered those cast for him...

 

All in all, I would say your assessment is brilliant.

 

Creepy, but brilliant!

 

;)

 

-Tammy

"The Diva"

coup2k.com

 

 

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