RESISTANCE
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"The SCADA
Conference 2001 Debriefing" MailBag
Posted June 27, 2001
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PRINTER-FRIENDLY VERSION OF THE DEBRIEFING
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From: "Connie W"
To: "The Diva (Tammy)" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:28 PM
Subject: SCADA de-briefing`
Tammy,
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Your description of the goings on was wonderful. I felt as though I had attended myself.
My sentiments are pretty much the same as yours on this
horrible injustice, so I wanted to scream, applaud, and weep as I read your
vivid account.
Thanks again for all you do for democracy.
Connie W.
Rainbow Coalition Party of MA
From: "Chris C."
To: "BBBR Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
The Diva,
Beautiful letter, and fun to read. It's amusing you have to educate most of the
Democrats, which leaves me to believe it's about time we put into highest
office the ones who already get the picture.
Sincere best wishes,
Chris C.
From: "Lisa Thomas" < lthomas@vidnet.net >
To: "BBBR Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Tammy, if I didn't feel some commitment to trying the keep
my English SOMEWHAT within some confines, I'd say this piece is UTTERLY
EXCELLENT!
Lisa
From: "Steven B Young" < theeothersteveyoung@juno.com
>
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Good stuff, Div.
Next time an event such as this come up, please let everyone know,
even at the last minute (I'm sure you did and I missed it). I would have loved to have gone there. I am developing a entertainment and media
effort with some others which I expect will help the right (not THEE Right)
people get elected.
Best,
Steve Young
From: "Bridget M"
To: "'BBBR Resistance'" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
1) Diva - It's
nice to know such a passionate, strong willed, feisty person like you is on our
side! I'm breathing a little easier
today. :)
2) I am a member
of Democrats.com, VoterMarch.org, and several other
Democratic organizations - How can I get information about what's going on in Los
Angeles as far as Conventions? I had no
idea there was a Convention yesterday, and I heard about another Breakfast
Convention they had in Downtown Los Angeles but it wasn't until I saw it on the
news that night.
3) You can count
on me to be one of the many who will keep fighting until this injustice is made
right.
Keep it up! Many
are right behind you!
Bridget B. M.
Dear Bridget:
Thank you for your wonderful e-mail.
I try my best to post all the Southern
California actions on the BBBR (coup2k.com), just as quickly as I hear about
them. For instance, I posted the SCADA
Conference info on June 2, at:
http://www.coup2k.com/alerts06022001.html
I don't always do a complete job, as I am the only
one working on the site and am in perpetual overload mode, so there are
fallbacks, mostly on YahooGroups, that I recommend to folks as well. If you like, I can send you a list of groups
to consider joining or monitoring, and my site's group is listed below in my
signature, as well.
Let me say, for me, that it means the world
that you are with us, and fighting, and that you took the time to write in.
We need every Resistance Fighter we can get.
:)
Tammy
"The Diva"
WebMistress of BBBR
ALT URL:
http://www.geocities.com/dearkandb
Shop at Coup Couture Mall: http://www.coup2k.com/mall.html
Low Volume Mailing List: BBBResistance-subscribe@listbot.com
Radio Free BBBR eGroup: BBBR-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Hi Tammy,
You didn't have to ask.
I can do whatever you need me to do to help out.
Send on the
lists!
Thanks,
Bridget
From: "Mr. Evans"
To: "BBBR Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Hi Tammy, you Diva, You!!! I just thought that should write you and tell you that I really
loved this letter about your attendance at the SCADA conference yesterday!
"I'm glad the both you and Rose were able to be
there, and to root for Mr. Bugliosi, who is also my hero as well"!!!
"I wasn't aware that you were Bi-Racial, but now I
fully understand why you are so Beautiful"!!!
:-)
Sincerely, Mr. Evans 'D.F.F.CA."!!!
Dear Mr. Evans:
I'm not biracial at all. I am black by choice.
For more info, see:
http://www.coup2k.com/blacklikeme.html
:)
Tammy
"The Diva"
WebMistress of BBBR
Hi Tammy,
I apologize to you if I'm wrong! I hope that you aren't offended, but I must have misread your
letter, but I thought that you said that you were Bi Racial!
"These are your words friend"!!!
I MEET MY SISTER, MAXINE WATERS,
I'm black, as most
of you already know. Granted, I didn't
always know this, but it's never to late to learn the truth. On January 7, 2001, I formally switched my
personal racial identification, due in no small part to Maxine Waters.
"This is why I thought you were
Bi-Racial"!!!
Peace friend :-)
P.S. Whatever race you are friend, I think that you are a
very Beautiful person"!!!
:-)
James Evans
From: <Kim of VoterMarch.org>
To: < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
In a message dated 6/26/01 2:36:43 PM, thediva@coup2k.com writes:
<< But as we walked away, Rose was again in tears,
and again, I knew exactly how she felt. >>
okay, now i'm all verklempt! could i please have your
permission to post this to some of the other groups?
kim
From: "merriman"
To: "BBBR Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
The resistance lives in Texas ! Keep your faith in the people......keep pushing us and give my
best to Rose.
Stan Merriman-fringefolk,
Countercoup Houston.
Are you aware of the massive protest planned for DC in
Sept. 29th I think? Ramsey Clark's
IAC.
From: "Norma"
To: "BBBR
Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Dear all.......Powerful stuff herein......Diva, you
touched my very innards with your descriptions of human emotion and activity at
the SCADA Conference.....Damn, wish I could have been there! Keep up the
powerful works as there are many of us listening and spreading the truth out
there.......Many thanks and as you stated, "TRUTH BEFORE
RECONCILIATION! TRUTH BEFORE
RECONCILIATION!"
Norma
BBBR Resistance - http://www.coup2k.com
[DIVA NOTE: The
original BBBR Message was included here.]
From: "Mimi A"
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Cc: "Norma"
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 8:01 AM
Subject: Fw: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Dear Diva and friends......(dear) Norma forwarded your
marvelous accounting of the goings on...as her post states, below this
add-on...and I HAD to add my gratitude to hers......
It was more heartening than you can imagine for me to read
your passionate account of the SCADA. and I too wish I could have been in the
presence of TRUTH and HONESTY in front of so many folks!!!! I feel as if we are all living in a
surrealistic dream/nightmare of pretension...dishonesty....DENIAL....
the truth is too painful so in true dysfunctional manner
no one wants to admit the f***ing (GOP) elephant in the middle of the living
room....
how long can we go on with this festering boil
unlanced...this infectious process unattended.....this big poopy elephant
living in our midst?????
NO TRUTH....NO JUSTICE.....
NO JUSTICE.....NO PEACE!!!!...
this holds true in the middle east as well as in our own
backyard.....
I wish I could heard/seen Bugliosi and Maxine Waters speak
for me, too.
THANK YOU for your excellent report.....
Truth and Justice NOW!!
mimi in albuquerque
From: <Jamie of CounterCoup.org>
To: "BBBR Resistance" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
once again....you've put my heart into words.
i was seething today listening to that little uncle tom
piece of crap larry elder on KABC, dissing the entire conference. he picked on ed
begley with sh** about his bicycle riding (he made it sound like ed didn't have
a car but rode around town on his bike instead like a nut) or....warren is a
great guy but terribly misguided or....
nevermind. i'll just start to boil and i'd much rather remember
what we all experienced sunday and remember vincent and how he is preparing to
really do battle and get those f***s put in prison.
btw....you neglected to mention that the esteemed president of
dogs for democracy was present at your table ;-) hehe...the one with 4
legs.
thank you for the stickers!
xxoo j
Dear Jamie:
I'm glad you enjoyed my report. It's still a work in progress (obviously).
I got to the part about meeting Maxine, and
writing about that interlude
drained me, for some odd reason, so I stopped
writing for the day.
yeah well...remember how hysterical i got with her? just
seeing the woman made me break into tears. it's the way she held me in the
conference room when i broke down on her shoulder that was deeply touching. i
have heard so many repugs demean and diss her that it makes me sick to my
stomach. she has more courage in a drop of her saliva than they have in their
entire beings!
oh i also wanted to point out...that you mentioned there
were four of us resistance fighters but only named rose and kim. not that i'm
looking for glory but it is just for literal consistancy ;-) we're all tired.
if you are up past 10 pm some nights, you might like to
tune in KGO from SF if you can get it (810 am) which only comes thru at night
here (or you can get it on the web). bernie ward at 10 and then ray taliafero
at 1 am absolutely ream bush's ass every night. it'll make you feel better.
that beautiful australian shepherd who shared everybody's
turkey sandwiches is named billie :-)
hugs....Jamie
how do we join in jesse jr's org? he kicked big time
ass! he is the future of this movement! and where are the kennedy kids these
days? ;-)
[DIVA NOTE: There
are two organizations Jesse was handing out literature about:
http://www.progressivemajority.org/
and
http://www.jessejacksonjr.org
]
Dear Jamie:
Billie!
How could I forget? She shares
the name of Joe Perry's gorgeous wife.
And yes, I caught my error in omitting your name
before I sent my report out to publishers.
Fear not, it will be corrected on the site as well.
:)
More soon...
-Tammy
"The Diva"
coup2k.com
From: <Hugh N.>
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 11:16 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBResistance] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE
JR., WARREN, AND ME....
Dear Tammy,
What a wonderful story!
I'm so glad that you got to talk to Maxine Waters and say what you said
to her. It sounds like one of those perfect
moments that are too rare and always unforgettable. I know I will remember your words to her and I wasn't even there
to hear them. Just perfect.
Fighting on,
Hugh
From: <Barbara L. H.>
To: < BBBR@yahoogroups.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBR] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE JR.,
WARREN, AND ME....
In a message dated 06/26/2001 4:34:06 PM Pacific Daylight
Time, thediva@coup2k.com writes:
I was babbling, but I finally got my verbal legs under me,
and said to her, "I watched as you were walking out of the chamber, and I
looked into the faces of progressives that I knew wanted to be with you... They were looking away. They couldn't look into your eyes, because
you were Justice that day, and they were cowards."
I can't really describe her physical reaction to what I
said. She sort of jerked, like someone
had given her a shock, and then looked into my eyes, and said, "That's a
powerful statement!"
This brought tears to MY eyes...I can't imagine what I
would've felt standing
there witnessing it.
Thank you. Thank you all who
went and supported Vince
and Maxine and Jesse, and especially Vince.
Barbara L. H.
From: "Leah F."
To: < BBBR@yahoogroups.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [BBBR] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE JR.,
WARREN, AND ME....
Thank you as well for telling Maxine what I wished I would
have told myself! (I wrote, but it's not the same).
The enthusiasm Bugliosi generated in the room is probably
the most significant development. Little by little, people find out the truth,
get educated. His book is on NYT best sellers list, by the way!
From: "Leah F."
To: "Al Gore in 2004"
< Al-Gore-2004-Community@yahoogroups.com
>;
< BBBR@yahoogroups.com
>;
< demletterwriting@yahoogroups.com
>;
"DieHard dems"
< DiehardDems@yahoogroups.com
>;
"USDemocrat"
< USDemocrat@yahoogroups.com
>;
"Voter March e-mail list"
"Democrats 0nly"
< democrats-only@egroups.com
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 4:11 AM
Subject: [Voter] My letter to Gephardt
After reading The diva's account of his performance in
Cali yesterday, I felt moved to write him the following (I'll send it snail
mail):
Office of House Democratic Leader
1226 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-0100
e-mail: gephardt@mail.house.gov
Dear Mr. Gephardt
I hear that in your speech at the democratic convention in
California, you talked about hate. I hear that you extolled the virtues of
forgiveness as witnessed in South Africa.
I feel compelled to give you the historical perspective
that you lack: The people from
South Africa were noble indeed. They
exchanged their right to punish for something more precious: THE TRUTH. That
makes their gesture exemplary and powerful. They made sure that the atrocities
from the past were recorded for future generations, so they won't be revisited.
They did not just " move on" like we are asked
to do. That would have been weak. In order to be given, forgiveness must be
asked for.
I did not hear the truth yet about my stolen vote. I did
not hear DeLay's thugs who stopped the recounts in Miami Dade asking for
forgiveness. I did not hear Scalia and
the gang confessing about subverting the Constitution. I did not hear the governor of Texas
admitting that he was not elected. Heck, I did hot even hear him admitting that
the majority in this country is dead against his right wing agenda.
I did not hear the media admitting their complicity to the
coup against our democracy. They are at it even now, covering for the
governor's faults and attacking us.
Without the truth, how are you going to make sure that
next time we'll have elections?
Mr. Gephardt, do not give away my right to forgive. It is
mine, and until you understand the value of the truth, I am not giving you the
right to do so.
Sincerely,
Leah F.
[DIVA NOTE: For historical perspective, see http://www.truth.org.za/]
From: "Myra"
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 10:11 PM
Subject: SCADA Conference Report
Tammy,
Thank you so much for your debriefing on SCADA. I
appreciate your energy; sometimes it helps me to tap into it.
I totally agree with your comments about Vincent
Bugliosi. He's a true hero. I am so grateful to him.
That's why I want to make a suggestion to your many BBBR
readers: buy 5-10 copies of his book,
"Betrayal of America" and give all but one away.
They are *very* cheap; a number of online stores have them
for ~$5.50 a pop. For that small amount
we can spread the word, support his heroic efforts, show the publishers that
the American people care about this subject, and get that book on the
best-seller lists where it belongs, and where it will be harder for the
mainstream slimeball media to ignore.
Just think how bummed the NY Times will be to actually
list that book among the top ten. Oh, the HORROR. Heh.
I just bought 8 copies and I've read it and given one away
so far. I want everyone to know what he has to say.
Thanks Tammy. Keep
up the great work.
Myra
From: <Jamel>
To: < voter@yahoogroups.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 6:12 PM
Subject: [Voter] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE JR., WARREN,
AND ME....
Oh, I wish I was there! I hope they come over to the east
coast soon. God Bless you guys! I'm with you Diva. No reconciliation until the
truth comes out! I 'm not through with my anger phase yet! No closure, until
all those demons get their due! I want to see all of them pay! We still have
Florida, Tennessee, and God knows what other states to deal with! I want to see investigations, impeachments,
jail time , etc., for all those corrupt subhuman bastards! Vincent Bugliosi,
Alan Dershowitz, Phil Berg, Lou Posner, you, Rose, you are ALL my heroes!
Thanks for sharing your experience. It gave me a great uplift!
Jamel
From: "Rosemary A."
To: "The Diva (Tammy)" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Voter] DICK, VINCENT, MAXINE, JESSE JR.,
WARREN, AND ME....
Dear Tammy - BRAVA!! BRAVA!!! God Bless You - Outstanding
effort and reporting on your part. I cried reading this, especially the parts
about Vincent, Rose, and Maxine. Wish I was there! Ya done real good.
Love and hugs,
Rosemary
From: "Merlin M."
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:54 AM
Subject: Dick, Vincent, Maxine, Jesse Jr
Hi
Way to go !!!!!
Yeah Diva !!!!!
We've got to get those white Democrat feet in the fire.
Warm Regards,
Merlin M.
Olympia, WA
From: "Wm. Thomas H."
To: "The Diva (Tammy)" < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:47 AM
Subject: Vincent Bugliosi's speech
Dear Diva,
Thank you very much for your report. Did you happen to
hear if Vincent Bugliosi's speech is going to be published or placed online
anywhere?
Tom H.
Sophia University
Dept. of English Literature
Tokyo, Japan
[DIVA NOTE:
Vincent's SCADA Speech is not online, as far as I know, but his
interview with "Make
Them Accountable" is:
TRANSCRIPT: http://makethemaccountable.com/Caro/Vincent_Bugliosi_010618_Transcript.htm
STREAMING AUDIO: http://makethemaccountable.com/Caro/Vincent_Bugliosi_010618.ram
]
From: "Joyce F."
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 8:06 PM
Subject: Vincent
I enjoyed your report.
A few days ago Vincent was on Geraldo Rivera. I loved it. I ordered his
book from Amazon. At the time the
Supreme Court brought up this protection crap and mentioned it was a one time
ruling, I laughed. Who did they think they were kidding? That's the way the Republicans snow people. If you say it enough people will believe
it's the truth. After all they are the
Republicans. Now their selling their
Judicial Nominations rules. They say
the Democrats are guilty of ideology.
What do you think they've been doing for years? I am so frightened of this Bush
administration and the bills they have already passed. Tax Cuts - these cuts are raping our
treasury. The budget is a joke. He doesn't intend to adhere to his
budget. Budgets are made to break.
We are going to have to be strong Democrats. Whether we agree with their strategies or
not. We can let them know if we
disagree. However we must have a strong
front.
Dick Gephardt is trying to show the public that they are
trying to get along with the Republicans.
However, he's a fighter and he will stand up when he's needed most.
I loved the Black Caucus during the election debacle. Maxine Waters, Sheila Jackson, and Jesse
Jackson, Jr. are doing a wonderful job.
They all stand up for the right reasons.
By the way, Tammy, I'm white. I don't see the issues in this country as black or white. They are all our issues. Bush and his cronies stand for tyranny. He's not a leader - he doesn't lead because
of a strong commitment for what is right for this country. He doesn't lead by persuasion. He is leading
by commanding and demanding.
I'm 68 years old and in my life I've tried to fight for
the right things that includes everyone.
Whether it be for teacher's strikes, better school board members, better
village board members, etc. I've always
participated in civic matters. Believe
me I was not appreciated by the status quo people.
I sued Ralston Purina for age discrimination and won. At that time the EEOC's budget had been cut
by Reagan so I had to find my own employee practice lawyer. This was about principal. Not a bunch of money. They were doing this to women who had no
money to stand up to them. I happened
to have $2,500. for a retainer. It
ended up costing over $8,000, but Ralston had to reimburse me as well as pay a
settlement. The federal judge was Steven Limbaugh, a relative to Rush
Limbaugh. He's also the judge that was
involved at the end with the school desegregation suit in St. Louis. As you probably have read John Danforth, the
former Senator, is a stockholder in Ralston Purina, a company his grandfather
started.
Don't get discouraged . . . hang in there!
Joyce F.
Columbia, IL
From: <Jim McGreevy>
To: < thediva@coup2k.com >
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:06 PM
Subject: A note from 'Wake Up Democrats!'
Howdy, Tammy. I'm the one in the wide-brimmed hat at 'Wake
Up Democrats!' who bought a bunch of buttons and mentioned that my Democratic
Club's website had a link to Coup2k.com. -- Our links page is at:
www.lafn.org/politics/gvdc/QuickLinks.html
and the link to coup2k.com is near the top. (Sorry, my
links page is text only -- it's already
105k! -- so there isn't room for your banners.) No need for you to put a link
to us, our stuff is pretty tame compared to yours -- extremely tame.
Since November I've been passing out copies of articles
from websites like yours and from newspapers like the Manchester Guardian, as
well as stuff that I wrote. It's very
nice to have sites that keep archives about this coup d'etat. Big Brother
hasn't tried to eliminate you all, yet. But he's still in office another three
and a half years...
I read the first part of your report on the S.C.A.D.A.
CONFERENCE 2001 -- very interesting. Dick Gephardt lost me on that "love
and forgiveness" tangent as well. Maybe he skipped an intro that would've
tied it in to the rest of his speech. Perhaps he just wanted to let us know
that he was compassionate. Who knows? It was an odd departure, given the rest
of his speech. However sympathetic those stories were, a lot of the people
there -- not just you -- were angered over his implication that we should
forgive the Bush gang.
Everyone later cheered when Vincent Bugliosi called for
the impeachment of the five Justices. I'm sure the cheers would have brought
the roof down if someone had called for the impeachment of the Bush brothers
and Kathryn Harris!
Keep up the good work. I enjoy your site a lot and I'm
sure that our Club members, many of whom were in the Counter-Innaugurals in
L.A. and Washington, DC, will want some of your buttons and stuff. If we come
up with any ideas for buttons I'll send them to you.
Cheers,
--Jim McGreevy
Torrance, California
U.S.A.
From: "Linda C. McCabe"
To: < thediva@coup2k.com
>
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: You're BAAAAACK
Tammy,
That was an excellent set of essays you wrote about the
conference. That's what you needed to
break your writer's block. Scream your
head off for Bugliosi, and meet Jesse Junior and Maxine.
And your identification of Truth before Reconciliation -
DEAD ON. If I didn't know better, I'd
think you were a Sagittarius like me.
Dead on target.
Keep fighting,
Linda