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CLINTON HAS SKIN CANCER!


Politics/Elections News Keywords: BREAKING
Source: MSNBC
Posted on 01/16/2001 11:04:44 PST by Timeout

MSNBC just put up a tag at the bottom of the screen that said "Lesion on Clinon's back is skin cancer".


1 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:04:44 PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout

Woohoo!

2 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:05:24 PST by VoodooEconomist
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To: VoodooEconomist

I just realized there's another thread already up on this....go there./

3 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:06:16 PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout

More likely an AIDS lesion.

4 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:06:43 PST by elwoodp
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To: Timeout

They said they cleanly got it all when the excised the spot.

5 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:07:08 PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timeout


Silence Sodomy = Death

6 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:07:47 PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Timeout

Ah yes, the Devil comes to collect his due.

7 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:09:21 PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Timeout

I find it interesting that they're announcing this now so the Ashcroft coverage is interrupted by news about Bill.
It's always about him. Bill Clinton all the time. Get the hook.

8 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:11:09 PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This is a relatively common form of skin cancer, 800,000 to 1 million cases a year," Siewert said. "The lesion was removed, so while the president, it can be said, had skin cancer, that has been removed and he no longer has it."

9 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:11:55 PST by Cagey
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To: Timeout

CLINTON HAS SKIN CANCER!

GOOD!

10 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:13:10 PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don't you mean 'exorcised'?

11 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:13:24 PST by redhead2
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To: Cagey

This is to differentiate his skin lesion from his lack of decency and conscience, attributes that he never possessed.

12 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:14:05 PST by ralph
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To: Timeout

Clinton IS a cancer!

13 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:14:37 PST by deener
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To: Cagey

One qualifier: basal cell carcinoma, once it occurs, frequently re-occurs (is that redundant?). And, it can develop into melanoma.

14 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:15:07 PST by sinkspur
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just get out of the Bushes house!

15 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:15:56 PST by BeamMeUpScotty
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To: Timeout

Here is a funny thread started in extended news

Lesion on Clintons Back

16 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:22:22 PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Timeout

You should all be F@cking ashamed of yourselves. This thread has got to go. You hate the man so much that you rejoice at his having cancer? You make me sick.

FReepers should be praying that the man changes his heart before he goes to face his Judge, a judge who will definitely not recuse Himself and who will deliver a decisive, just verdict.

17 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:22:50 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: The Old Hoosier

I'm not rejoicing, I just don't care. And spare us your outrage. How many liberals have been on FR making fun of Reagan's Alzheimers? Hmmmm?

18 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:29:06 PST by MOMinTN
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To: VoodooEconomist

Can this thread disappear? While I really despise the man, I do not wish for his death via cancer. Nor should any of us.

19 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:29:21 PST by Solson
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To: The Old Hoosier

Ive voluntarily recused myself 4-5 months ago from posting cause I always got in trouble with the Freep crowd. NOt this time. Ask me how much pity I have for this demon when I think of Chinese, Russian, or some other country he sold nuclear secrets to just to keep his sorry crooked ass in office nuking my family and watching the flesh fall from my childrens bodies. MAY HE ROT IN HELL!!!!!!

20 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:32:08 PST by Agent99
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To: The Old Hoosier

"Payback" is a MUTHER**$#

Now, Billy Boy will pay THE PRICE DUE for ALL the Damage *IT* has DONE

21 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:17 PST by dishedd
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To: Solson

I would never wish for his death -- i would much rather he suffer in unending pain and agony as his body rots inside and out.

22 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:31 PST by commish
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To: sinkspur

Basal cell carcinomas are 95+% curable with surgical excision or radiation (which is usually reserved for those on the face where the cosmetic result is important). Even when incompletely excised, the recurrence rate is about 35-40%. Basal cell carcinomas do not convert into melanomas.

23 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:34:49 PST by SC DOC
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To: Cagey

"The lesion was removed, so while the president, it can be said, had skin cancer, that has been removed and he no longer has it."

Wish we could say the same about him.

24 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:36:46 PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: commish

I don't want him dead; I want him before a judge.

25 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:36:46 PST by AppyPappy
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To: Solson and AppyPappy

Zackly

26 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:38:10 PST by OWK
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To: The Old Hoosier

You should all be F@cking ashamed of yourselves. This thread has got to go. You hate the man so much that you rejoice at his having cancer? You make me sick.

Rejoicing? Hardly! I'm cursing the fact that the cancer didn't occur on his bent penis and was so malignant it had spread to every vital organ in his yellow, vile, traitorous, lying, raping, redneck, mass-murdering, draft-dodging, cocaine-snorting, commie-coveting, corruption-covering, scandal-ridden, bloated body! (And May God forgive my unabashed hatred of this puss-ridden excuse for gnat cheese from an uncircumsized foreskin)

27 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:43:00 PST by ironangel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

January 20, 2001

The lesion was removed, so while the USA, it can be said, had a kind of cancer for the last eight years, the leech has been removed and we no longer have it."

I feel better now too :)

28 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:17 PST by Cagey
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To: Timeout

Clinton had a small skin lesion removed. It's hardly the stuff of gravity. If there were evidence of the disease more advanced, it could have been. It's simply another attempt to make Clinton an empathetic figure. Soon it'll be said that we can't prosecute a man with "this" disease. Get the barf buckets ready my freinds. Ala Alan Cranston and Jim Guy Tucker, here's comes the quivering lip squad.

As for Clinton having cancer, I don't think we elevate ourselves by wishing that on anyone. We should certainly desire and expect jail terms for his crimes, but God can and will provide any further justice when the time comes.

29 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:31 PST by DoughtyOne
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To: SC DOC

Abstract
Chronic herpesvirus infections are common in patients infected with HIV. Atypical skin lesions secondary to long-standing varicella-zoster virus (VZV) infection have been reported. We present a case of an AIDS patient with a chronic VZV infection that simulated a basal cell carcinoma. Histologic examination and immunohistochemistry confirmed the presence of the virus in the follicular epithelium. In the immunocompromised patient, biopsies should be performed on all suspicious lesions because medically-treatable infections may take on the appearance of malignancy.

Chronic Varicella Zoster Infection Mimicking a Basal Cell Carcinoma in an AIDS Patient.
Tsao H; Tahan SR; Johnson RA J Am Acad Dermatol, 1997 May, 36:5 Pt 2, 831-3

Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To describe the types of skin cancer associated with the acquired immunodeficiency syndrome (AIDS). DESIGN: A literature review of AIDS-related mucocutaneous neoplasms, including basal cell carcinoma, squamous cell carcinoma, bowenoid papulosis and Bowen's disease, squamous cell carcinoma, cloacogenic carcinoma, and malignant melanoma, is presented, and the incidence, etiopathogenesis, clinicopathologic features, treatment, and prognosis are discussed.
RESULTS: The association between cutaneous neoplasms and AIDS is well known. Neoplasms seem to grow more rapidly and be more invasive in patients with AIDS than in other groups of patients. Several oncogenic factors--for example, sunlight exposure or human papillomavirus infection--have been associated with the development of skin cancer in these patients. The morbidity and mortality rates of skin cancer are higher in patients infected with the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) than in the general population. Early and complete excision of the neoplasm is especially important.
CONCLUSION: A link exists between AIDS and the development of skin cancer. HIV-infected patients should be followed up vigilantly for early diagnosis of skin cancer. Because these patients are less able to suppress common cutaneous malignant disease due to their immunocompromised status, biopsy specimens should be obtained from all suspicious lesions, and histopathologic assessment should be done.

Skin Cancers Associated with Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome.
Wang CY; Brodland DG; Su WP Mayo Clin Proc, 1995 Aug, 70:8, 766-72

Cordially,

30 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:32 PST by Diamond
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To: Timeout

Well it's not polite or Christian to wish evil on anyone or anything, here's Bill leading me into temptation again.

31 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:44:59 PST by Joe Boucher (cold@gateway.net)
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To: The Old Hoosier

The man is scum. If he died today, the world would instantly be a better place. Your sympathies would be better directed towards a worthy recipient. Not some vile piece of dirt that would have you killed in an instant if it benefited him politically.

32 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:45:52 PST by wny
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To: commish

I would never wish for his death -- i would much rather he suffer in unending pain and agony as his body rots inside and out.

Aids does that, doesn't it? Until he gets pneumonia and dies.
Don C.

33 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:46:02 PST by 1stIowa
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To: Cagey

I feel better now too :)

One last medical visit paid for by the American people.

34 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:46:43 PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Timeout

MSNBC, Old news, Go here.

Doctors: Suspicious cancerous lesion found on Clinton's back

I just heard on WABC News that it was an old lesion and had already been removed. Just another manipulation of the press by Clinton, to get his face all over the media before he leaves. He just can't stand it can he? he has to take the lime light away from Bush. What a pig.

35 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:50:14 PST by Teacup
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To: SC DOC

Basal cell carcinomas are 95+% curable with surgical excision or radiation (which is usually reserved for those on the face where the

After years of biking, hiking, jogging and tanning I have had 5 removed and go in tomorrow to have the stitches removed from the 5th ( right on the front of my nose )

36 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:50:59 PST by uncbob
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To: The Old Hoosier

C'mon, for God's sake do not get joy from someone getting cancer, even if it is Slick.

If you want to know how bad cancer really is, I'll be glad to arrange a dinner at the home of a friend of mine; nearly half his family has some sort of cancer or another except for him.

37 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:51:03 PST by Benson_Carter
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To: Timeout

Kaposi's carcinoma comes to mind.

38 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:53:05 PST by Reelect President Dubya
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To: The Old Hoosier

"You make me sick. "

Then why are you reading this thread? There's a name for people who like things that make them sick.

39 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:55:26 PST by bayourod
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To: Diamond

Also solid organ transplant patients who are on immunosuppressive drugs for the rest of their lives are at high risk for skin cancers. THey also tend to behave more aggressively than the garden variety basal cell carcinoma.

40 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:01:06 PST by SC DOC
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To: Solson

I fully agree. Look, no one despises Clinton personally and politically any more than I do. My fondest dream would be to see that smirk wiped permanently off his face and see him on his hands and knees with tears streaming down his face literally losing control of his bodily functions with mortal terror and begging not to go to jail. But when we wish the man's death from cancer, we are no better than the vermin who laugh at President Reagan's Alzheimer's, and we lose the moral high ground to call those people on it.

41 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:07:50 PST by GB
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To: MOMinTN

Oh, so if the liberals do it, that makes it right?

42 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:08:46 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: uncbob

You may want to talk to your doctor about chemoprevention. There is experimental evidence that the new Cox-2 inhibitors for treatment of arthritis (Celebrex or Vioxx) reduce the incidence of skin cancers in experimental animal models exposed to heavy doses of UV light. There is human data that shows they can reduce the risk of pre-malignant colon polyps. These drugs are not FDA approved for this purpose, but with all your outdoor activities I'd bet you might have some arthritis. (if you catch my drift) The main drawback to these drugs is expense.

43 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:09:58 PST by SC DOC
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To: wny

Jesus loves everyone, except Bill Clinton, right?

44 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:10:49 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: Timeout

I suspected it was an old astroturf abrasion!

45 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:12:12 PST by verity
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To: bayourod

I never said I like the thread, but I do like FR, and I like most FReepers. And it pains me to see them being jackasses.

46 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:12:38 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: bayourod

"I" come here to read the latest news and a bit of commentary about it.

That being said, even the voices of the most extreme amoung have a right to be heard! BUT, being joyful, boisterous, or in anyway happy about the REAL PHYSICAL ILLNESSES of ANY man SHOULD be above us. WE accuse the democRATS / Liberal press etc of exactly this kind of behaviour and we are APPALLED! Now the tables have turned and what do we do??? THROW A PARTY!!

Come on, this is too low!

While I would never wish any good for Clinton, I WOULD NEVER wish him any ill. Clinton is the lowest form of slim ever pumped from a bilge and should face charges, both here and in the ever after, for EVERYTHING he has ever done!

I and my family will toast his leaving office, we will NOT toast his demise!

47 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:13:43 PST by An.American.Expatriate
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To: SC DOC

No wonder the conservatives keep losing. The opinions on this thread show a mean-spirited viewpoint that makes Al Sharpton look reasonable. If the Christian-Conservative position is to wish cancer (or any other disease) on their opponents, they deserve to be defeated.

48 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:15:28 PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Timeout

While I am saddened that anyone can get skin cancer, I can't help thinking of that old "Barcelona" song:

They say you got a carcinoma
a lesion on your back.
A basal cell-type carcinoma
which you'd rather lack.

Oh yeah you got a carcinoma
the operation was quite dull
Coulda been a big blastoma
Hidden in your skull

But it's just a carcinoma
a sort-of "Cancer Lite"
just a little carcinoma
keeps you in the spotlight.

49 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:18:12 PST by theDentist
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To: Timeout

When I was 14 y.o, I remember my whole 8th grade class cheered when we heard President Reagan was shot. I grew up Liberal, obviously, and they did a great brain-washing act even back then.

I don't know if the point is "Happiness for others misfortune is wrong" or "Hey, they'd be cheering if it were Bush with the Cancer on his back". Take from it what you wish.

50 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:18:46 PST by bigjoesaddle
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To: Timeout

clin-toon is a CANCER! Go GWB!

51 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:09 PST by neat62
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To: Solson

"Can this thread disappear? While I really despise the man, I do not wish for his death via cancer. Nor should any of us."

Agreed. Billy needs to go to prison.

52 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:28 PST by allend
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To: Timeout

This is the worst thread I have seen on FR since the time someone posted a threat against the president and I had to call the Secret Service.

53 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:22:59 PST by Austim
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To: Timeout

This will elevate Clinton's victim status: "I stand before you today (biting lip) as a cancer survivor."

54 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:25:26 PST by I'mPeach
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To: The Old Hoosier

I never said it was OK. I was just comparing the two situations. I see your point, but quite frankly, if he's sick, I don't care. Maybe I should, but I don't. I could say that I care, but I'm not a liar. Sorry I flamed you. I've only been posting here since August and haven't earned the right to do that.

55 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:26:45 PST by MOMinTN
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To: Timeout

Guess what this means: Clinton will probably step down as President on Thursday or Friday, and Gore will become acting president just long enough to pardon Clinton, et al. Mark my words on it.

56 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:29:07 PST by PetroniDE
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To: Austim

Maybe he can put some ice on it. That seems to be his solution to all sorts of pathologies.

57 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:29:20 PST by JohnYankeeCmpsr
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To: Timeout

Its not cancer, its AIDS.

58 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:32:07 PST by LongsforReagan
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To: Diamond

Excellent post. Very educational. Also, the Hebrew people knew that skin diseases were the result of the tongue. When Clinton came out with his "demand" that scientists find the cure to AIDS, I knew. Then I studied his photos, and he sure looked like the AIDS patients I was seeing (I am not a doctor for clarification) at the University of Pennsylvania Medical School. Sometimes it takes a fatal diagnose to bring a person to the foot of the Cross.

59 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:32:47 PST by TrueBeliever9
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To: Cagey

Clinton represented a lot of the cancer that is still in the system. He leaves but it still is in the body politic and we are going to see a lot of it over the decades.

60 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:33:19 PST by A+Bert
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To: Austim

You had to call the Secret Service? Really? I bet you were a tattle tale when you were a child, too.

61 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:34:30 PST by mountaineer
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To: MOMinTN

I don’t mind being flamed, mom, but it hurts to see so little common, Christian or even human decency on this thread.

62 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:34:58 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: I'mPeach

I can see Hillary now using him as a poster guy for her health agenda.

63 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:35:02 PST by A+Bert
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To: The Old Hoosier

While it is true that hating all the time can cause us tend to end up becoming what we hate, it does hurt to see the words "common", "Christian" or even "human decency" mentioned in proximity to the words Bill Clinton.

Cordially,

64 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:42:37 PST by Diamond
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To: mountaineer

You had to call the Secret Service? Really? I bet you were a tattle tale when you were a child, too.

Making a threat against the president's life is against the law and violent posts are a violation of Free Republic's rules. Because it is against the law I called the Secret Service when a threat was made against President Clinton. I would do the same if some one on this forum threatened Sen. Clinton, President elect Bush or the local dogcatcher.

65 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:43:30 PST by Austim
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To: Agent99

Agreed, we now are terrorized by the real possibility that we may have loved ones and fellow citizens suffer and die by the millions, in horrible helplessness, because of clinton. Look what he's done to us, put us in such jeopardy and instigated such hatred. I despise what he's done, him(clinton), I pity. He's a pathetic excuse for a man.

We must not let him make us as hateful as he.

66 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:48:22 PST by cfrels
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To: Austim, mountaineer

You never have to call the SS if a threat is posted on FR. In fact, they'll find it faster here than if it's on the phone! LOL!

67 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:48:43 PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: Solson

I wish that I could be as charitable as you, but I wish him a slow, painful one.

68 Posted on 01/16/2001 12:55:26 PST by Bigg Red
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To: Timeout

Did they find any cancers or cellular diseases on his penis? Just curious....

69 Posted on 01/16/2001 13:02:54 PST by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: The Old Hoosier

Actually, the news misreported the story. The real story is that the lesion has Bill Clinton on its backside....

70 Posted on 01/16/2001 13:29:30 PST by Jay W
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

I think Clinton's skin cancer is no big deal. I have the same kind, and all you do is have it removed when they find one.

America is a Constitutional Republic...... gt

71 Posted on 01/16/2001 13:37:31 PST by gt22
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To: LongsforReagan

"Its not cancer, its AIDS."

If that's so, Billy needs to spend more time with Hillary.

72 Posted on 01/16/2001 14:03:00 PST by allend
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To: Timeout

I reckon the Heavenly Father will determine if this waste of human skin will survive much longer. After all, it does not matter what we think about (it) does it?. Bill Clinton is not human. He is one of the nepialum. He is evil, in the Biblical sense. God will give bill clinton his due. I look forward to the day when this happens.

Regards

J.R.

73 Posted on 01/16/2001 14:28:42 PST by NMC EXP
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To: Timeout

The lesion is reported to be resting and doing well following surgery. It was quoted as saying, "I'm so relieved to have been removed. You don't know how horrible it is to have been associated with the man. He gives lesions a bad name."

74 Posted on 01/16/2001 14:47:55 PST by aruanan
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To: An.American.Expatriate

"Come on, this is too low! "

If you feel that way about this thread why are you reading it? Your post is #47. If I felt that way about a thread I would have clicked the back button and gone to another thread after reading the first couple of replys.

Would you watch hours of ponography while saying "this is wrong. This is wrong. This is sooo wrong>"?

75 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:16:50 PST by bayourod
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To: Timeout

GOOD

76 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:20:33 PST by Centurion2000
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To: Timeout

I hope the cancer isn't fatal, and wish him a speedy recovery so his prison sentence can be carried out in full.

77 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:25:55 PST by Textide
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To: Timeout

I heard that the entire lesion was removed successfully and that Clinton will make a full 100% recovery.

That being said I'm left to ask: Did Clinton get the cancer or did the cancer get Clinton?

I wouldn't wish Clinton on anyone.

78 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:29:46 PST by Yakboy
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To: Doctor Stochastic

If the Christian-Conservative position is to wish cancer (or any other disease) on their opponents, they deserve to be defeated.

I agree. I treat cancer patients day in and day out and would not wish it on anyone. I despise Clinton as much as the next person, but hoping for a jail sentence is more appropriate. If you have to get cancer, basal cell carcinoma is the one to have. It rarely spreads and only causes significant challenges to treatment if it is neglected and causes much local tissue destruction. The small ones are a piece of cake to treat.

79 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:38:24 PST by SC DOC
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To: Doctor Stochastic

If the Christian-Conservative position is to wish cancer (or any other disease) on their opponents, they deserve to be defeated.

I agree. I treat cancer patients day in and day out and would not wish it on anyone. I despise Clinton as much as the next person, but hoping for a jail sentence is more appropriate. If you have to get cancer, basal cell carcinoma is the one to have. It rarely spreads and only causes significant challenges to treatment if it is neglected and causes much local tissue destruction. The small ones are a piece of cake to treat.

80 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:38:26 PST by SC DOC
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To: Austim

Why don't we all compromise? He can go to prison soon, then die there. That way, we can all be happy.

81 Posted on 01/16/2001 15:59:04 PST by DC Ripper
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To: ironangel

Rejoicing? Hardly! I'm cursing the fact that the cancer didn't occur on his bent penis and was so malignant it had spread to every vital organ in his yellow, vile, traitorous, lying, raping, redneck, mass-murdering, draft-dodging, cocaine-snorting, commie-coveting, corruption-covering, scandal-ridden, bloated body! (And May God forgive my unabashed hatred of this puss-ridden excuse for gnat cheese from an uncircumsized foreskin)

Tell us how you really feel. You've got to stop holding these feelings inside. They're going to eat you up.

82 Posted on 01/16/2001 16:12:43 PST by brewcrew
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To: The Old Hoosier

?You should all be F@cking ashamed of yourselves. This thread has got to go. You hate the man so much that you rejoice at his having cancer? You make me sick.

FReepers should be praying that the man changes his heart before he goes to face his Judge, a judge who will definitely not recuse Himself and who will deliver a decisive, just verdict.

17 Posted on 01/16/2001 11:22:50 PST by The Old Hoosier

How many died in the Sudanese "factory" so this waste of human skin could better his chances of skating?

How many billions more must we pay to keep our nation and our CHILDREN safe from the nuclear weapons secrets this traitor sold to the Communist/aetheist/murdering/demonic Red Chinese?

How many women do we NOT know about who live in shame after having the President RAPIST abuse and use them for his own sick and twisted pleasures?

I could go on and you KNOW it!

If Clinton has Cancer, he'd best put some ice on it. If Clinton ever gets inoperable and terminal Cancer, he'd best get on with it and decrease the surplus world population.

There is no love lost where Clinton and his lapdog apologists are concerned. He and his misbegotten ilk have damaged the nation, and the world, in ways that will be hard to repair. And, in many ways that will never be repaired.

Clinton has no right to my pity and I am under no obligations to give it.

83 Posted on 01/16/2001 16:21:53 PST by Thumper1960
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To: I'mPeach

Heck....OUR status' should be off the scale!

We're Clinton Survivors!

84 Posted on 01/16/2001 16:26:12 PST by Thumper1960
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